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Jen
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: If you had 65 acres, what would you do with it? Reply with quote

I find myself with 65 acres that has been conventionally cropped for many, many years. I would love to do something else, but need to at least make enough off the land to replace the rent I was receiving. And I can't go out and buy a whole bunch of equipment. Anyone care to brainstorm ideas on what to do with these acres? I am certain that I don't want a long term CRP agreement.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Christopher Moss
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jen wrote:
I find myself with 65 acres that has been conventionally cropped for many, many years. I would love to do something else, but need to at least make enough off the land to replace the rent I was receiving. And I can't go out and buy a whole bunch of equipment. Anyone care to brainstorm ideas on what to do with these acres? I am certain that I don't want a long term CRP agreement.


Hi there
Why don't you look into the chicken tractor There is a publication available from Acres USA that tells you all about it
In essence you use a movable type of self contained chook house that you move every day about the area it covers
Within that structure the chickens of course will do what they do lay eggs and in the process leave their droppings behind which will result in the addition of all the fertiliser the land would require anually
If you have sufficient rainfall on the property allow the weeds or pasture to grow to a few inches first
The chickens will also eat all the grubs and green feed they require cutting down on feed cost
If you were to also apply for certification at the same time by the end of the in convertion time you should have a very well established base in the soil to do any thing you wish
Suffice to say that you can run a few cattle or other grazing animals after the first full season where the chooks have been
Of course the production of eggs from the chickens will certainly pay off since all of the fertiliser needs for the land will be provided for in the mean time
I also suggest that you look up Joel Salatin who has adopted that process in his farm
He has a farm in Virginia at a place called Swope He has written a few articles and is very active in the organic movement
Good luck
Chris
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barb
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
You have a good size piece of land. Being the way it was farmed it is going to take sometime to build it back up to grow organicly. It is hard to say what to grow when most things need some form of machinery.
Look into what is a good seller in your area, then decied what of those you would be able to really do. It takes a few years to build up your sales. Look into if any place in your area is looking for a crop that they would agree (in writting) to buy if you grow it for them. Small live stock is a fast turn over of moneies.
free range chickens for eggs and meat sell well take little money or work, Goats for meat sell well and pretty easy to care for. they will also help to build your soil back up.
chemical free feed crop is always looked for and till you get machinery maybe a local farmer that would work the land up for you and help with the harvest.
good luck it all takes money and a lot of work.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jen, you are in the same spot today I found myself 5 years ago. We had two parcels totaling 95 acres, and decided to venture into organic production on one of them without doing too much planning. Your 65 acres may seem small scale, but it also can be much more land than you need, depending on the type of crops/animals/activities you may choose. I sense that you have some attachment to the property, which I can relate to, since my family has owned our property for 120 years.

It sounds like you have limited financial resources available, which is not necessarily a bad situation. It does mean you may have to perform more work by hand, on a small scale to start. A smaller amount invested to get started equals lower risk for you as the entrepreneur.

There are two things I would do initially before making any other decisions. The first is to get your soil tested. You need to find out what the strengths and weaknesses of your soil are. When I say soil test, I mean something beyond what the local extension office would offer. If you have an organic grower group in your area, they can probably give you a referral to someone who can do the proper testing and interpret the results for you. You really need to know the organic matter level in the soil, as well as the calcium/magnesium/potassium ratios and a number of other micronutrient levels. This will give you an idea of the cost involved in starting the soil in the right direction. Sourcing for any recommended materials is more complicated, if you intend to go the organic route.

The second thing I would do, and it is time consuming, is to go through the process of writing a business plan. This is not an easy thing to do. If you do this correctly, you will convince yourself first, and then others, that your idea is likely to succeed. In my state, the local extension periodically offers a program which walks you through the process. The program is called NxLevel (www.nxlevel.org). I have also found related information on two other web sites (www.acresusa.com and http://attra.ncat.org). I believe each state has what are known as Small Business Development Centers to help folks like us get started. Your local chamber of commerce may also be able to provide information. The business plan concept helps walk you through the process of building your idea into identifying potential markets, as well as estimating financial data to determine profitability potential. As I am currently developing a plan myself, the key element seems to be start small and find the people who are interested in what you have to offer. This is your base to build off. If you are near any Farmer's Markets, visit one to see what the growers are doing, and talk to the market manager.

If you are interested in creating a sustainable environment on your property, but are unable to handle it yourself, you may be able to find students/interns, etc. who have the knowledge and ambition, but lack the main resource - the land to get started, to work out a partnership of some type.
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atina
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your goal is minimal equipment and minimal time input from you while taking care of the soil and improving it for the future, you might consider planting a hay crop on it and selling the crop green in the field to someone else who does the cutting and harvest.

The hay roots will improve your soil.
You will control erosion.
Conventional growers don't generally use chemicals on hay.
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Jen
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello All - I am so glad to see responses! I hope you all come back with more replies!

The reason I have this land available is that the conventional grower I was renting to has gone belly up. I never wanted to rent to conventional growers, but really had no choice other than to let the land go to grass until I had time to figure out how to handle it. I am not particularly in favor of subsidised farming, and have always felt the rent I was getting was just coming from tax payers. Not that I am totally against it - I just don't want it. I do, however, have that rent built into my budget, so I don't want to go long without it. (I could easily rent it again to another farmer for corn and beans.)

Let me give you some more information. Here's the equipment we have: a tractor, 33 hp diesel with front loader, rear tiller, a blade and a small rough mower. We do not have the ability to buy much more than that in terms of expensive equipment. We do have some money to invest in our operation for things that will return our investment in the first two years.

This particular land does not have access to water. There are no buildings on it. It is seperated from our farmstead (where we produce cut flowers and produce.) - by a dry creek. If we did anything expensive it would be a well.

So - that said - any more ideas given more information? We love dealing with animals, though we are complete novices. I wouldn't have any idea where to sell free range chickens in that quanitity. The wholesale market is a mystery to me!

Thanks so much for your ideas and any future ideas you have!!!!
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Morgan Reeder
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fence it and plant a good pasture mix for your area. Hurry up and get planted this fall. Fence can wait until spring or summer depending on how quick the pasture establishes. Rent it for grazing, possibly start your own herd in a corner.
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